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  If you don't love someone back.

  by compound complex in

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  2. friends

  have you experienced the heartbreak of caring a lot for someone, but they didn't notice you?

  or, as the opening title suggests, they love you romantically, but you just want to be friends?.

  it has happened to us, i know, as former witnesses, when there were not so many potential marriage mates available (depending where you lived).

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  compound complex

  Well, the good news is that this situation has not affected you!

  Thanks anyway.
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  If you don't love someone back.

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you experienced the heartbreak of caring a lot for someone, but they didn't notice you?

  or, as the opening title suggests, they love you romantically, but you just want to be friends?.

  it has happened to us, i know, as former witnesses, when there were not so many potential marriage mates available (depending where you lived).

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  compound complex

  Have you experienced the heartbreak of caring a lot for someone, but they didn't notice you? Or, as the opening title suggests, they love you romantically, but you just want to be friends?

  It has happened to us, I know, as former Witnesses, when there were not so many potential marriage mates available (depending where you lived). Perhaps, several young sisters pursuing one lone guy. At Bethel, it became a flattering but often perplexing situation for us brothers.

  I'd really be interested in knowing how you've dealt with the emotional roller coaster because the one pursued and the suitor are both affected, often adversely. The earlier thread garnered helpful thoughts and experiences, but I would appreciate further comment.

  Thanks.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6095337456402432/unrequited-love
  
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  Family events (getting old)

  by Jayk in

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  2. family

  the feeling of being disconnected from my family for so long makes me feel old.

  i think it's because the people i saw all the time when i was younger i don't see to often and you really notice that change in little bits but over time it really shows.

  the last time alot of witness friends i was 16, then i show up at a family event and i'm 28. that's life and i do get it but it really makes me feel old..

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  compound complex

  Hey, Jayk:

  I'm feeling the same about family, but it isn't just a JW thing.

  I had about 20 great aunts and uncles, so you can imagine all the cousins. I was on Facebook with my recently deceased first cousin's children. They're adults now and have their own kids. My only connection is through FB because everyone is scattered across the country. We kids -- back in the '50s and '60s -- were always together.

  Of course, the disconnection is amplified when you leave the org and get shunned. Apart from some bad blood that exists in any family, still, I have reconnected with my Catholic family (although they were always a part of my life, even as a JW). They never shunned me, and I was a JW for nearly fifty years.

  So, Jay, as to feeling old . . . yes, you're correct! The good news is that, chronologically, you are not old.

  Blessings and peace.
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  JW.ORG turning into an evangelical clone

  by Pistoff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i clicked this link to the november 2017 tvjw video, in it they defend their 2 witness policy, though, gutlessly, they do not mention it in the context of child sexual abuse.. anyway, check out the christian jehovian song at 57:06, ugh, makes me nauseous.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksz0qiftsok&feature=youtu.be&t=53m25s.

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  Luke was not likely a respected physician, and Paul did not write his letter to the Colossians in a dark prison cell.

  New light!

  "We can show love and concern for others even if we don't share their beliefs."

  At school, Aiden was pressured to sign a birthday card for his sick friend, Lucas, but refused. Troubled but resolute, Aiden talked to his father, Grayson, who showed him Scriptures reaffirming his belief that celebrating birthdays is wrong.

  Wanting to do something for his ill friend, Aiden and his parents went to visit him, at home. The hope of living forever in Paradise was presented to Lucas by means of a Watchtower publication.

  Fade to black . . .
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  Im new to the site. 28 years old, over 10 in exile. This is my story

  by Jayk in

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  2. experiences

  it's bitter sweet to find a site like this..i was born in the truth.

  when i was 16 i given the option to stop going.

  father and mothers family are both witnesses.

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  Welcome, Jayk, to the board.

  Many of us are more than twice your age and understand what you are saying and feeling. We're all survivors and encourage you to stay here to receive the support that will get you through this.

  More later.
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  True or False did the Watchtower Corporation create false doctrines intentionally to enhance the proliferation of their own publications ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  much as been revealed over the years to the date setting doctrines made by the wts.

  such as ( 1874, 1914, 1925 , 1975 this generation, the last days, the end times etc.... which were not created by other christian based faiths.. as to critically examine why might reveal a hidden agenda to all these date setting proclamations.. the point in question is did the wts and its leaders intentionally manipulate or exploit the preaching of the gospel to enhance the proliferation of their own printed publications ?.

  i would say convincingly yes, no question.

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  An evil motive is not necessary to mislead or abuse. Sometimes a firm conviction that we're right, left unchallenged, is enough to cause abuses. -- vienne

  Thank you, vienne, for triggering a memory. We who worked at Bethel believed our work meant salvation for those who took hold of the skirt of a Jew, i.e., accepted the the truth as espoused by the anointed remnant. One dear anointed sister -- Sister Kraker -- worked in subscriptions. When I was there for a matter I cannot recall, she held up a yellow Awake! form and said that represented the possibility that the recipient of the magazines, via the mail, would learn the truth.

  I cannot speak for everyone else, of course, but those close to me bound books and magazines, distributed them in service, and used their contents during meetings to edify the listener. Even the higher ups I knew well or simply observed about their work, were sincere in their service to Jehovah and their fellowman. The pursuit of monetary gain and ulterior motives -- if present at all -- were surely well hidden from me.

  Yet, as I look back now, I understand the reality of what you wrote regarding abuses incurred. Is this, in our now contrite state, the realization of the law of unintended consequences?
  
  
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  'Is there anybody there?'

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the listeners.

  'is there anybody there?’ said the traveller, .

  knocking on the moonlit door; .

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  One critique I read stated that Nature is indifferent to the anxiety felt by the "traveller," who wished only to acquit himself of a promise made. Yet, we have no clue what he promised and if the lodgers moved on in the flesh but left behind their essence.

  
  
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  Is There a TV Show or Movie That You Just NeverGet Sick Of?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i love the rifleman!

  i’ve seen it a million times and still will watch it !

  and goodfellas, the movie as well as the sopranos.

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  Look at Ingrid Bergman's face . . .

  And, then, listen to Louis: "I'm shocked! I'm shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"

  "Your winnings, Sir."

  "Oh, thank you very much!"

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTsg9i6lvqU
  
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  'Is there anybody there?'

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the listeners.

  'is there anybody there?’ said the traveller, .

  knocking on the moonlit door; .

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  Walter de la Mare offered no analysis, which others have sought to do. He stated only that the "Traveller" had discovered "a universe."

  Yes, "phantoms," whatever that could mean, realistically or metaphorically. A higher realm, another dimension where contact with another world is either impossible or not desired. Just my viewpoint.

  Man cannot connect with Nature nor can he connect with the universe . . .
  
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  True or False did the Watchtower Corporation create false doctrines intentionally to enhance the proliferation of their own publications ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  much as been revealed over the years to the date setting doctrines made by the wts.

  such as ( 1874, 1914, 1925 , 1975 this generation, the last days, the end times etc.... which were not created by other christian based faiths.. as to critically examine why might reveal a hidden agenda to all these date setting proclamations.. the point in question is did the wts and its leaders intentionally manipulate or exploit the preaching of the gospel to enhance the proliferation of their own printed publications ?.

  i would say convincingly yes, no question.

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  Vienne has already posted the link for the scholarly and well-researched book cited below. I suggest you check out customer reviews, written by individuals who are familiar with what is true and not true about C.T. Russell and his exploits.

  
  

  A Separate Identity: Organizational Identity Among Readers of Zion's Watch Tower: 1870-1887

  https://www.amazon.com/Separate-Identity-Organizational-Readers-1870-1887/dp/1304969401